Viva Las Vegas

Got a whole lot of money that’s ready to burn

Note: Right. So I have some reservations about this whole thing, and also therefore some reservations about posting it at all. But let us just say that I must do so anyway. This post is also longer than I like. And it’s very rushed and therefore likely contains errors. And, of course, I was interrupted definitely somewhere in the double digit, if not triple, times. Hard to say.

BACKGROUND

I ran across a supposed anonymous post, really just a screen cap of it, by a supposed member of the LVMPD. This person is claiming that what actually happened during the deadliest mass shooting in American history was that FBI was running a Fast and Furious {the DEA operation, not the movie series} operation using Steven Paddock as the arms salesman to ISIS, and that it went awry, ISIS representatives killed Paddock and started shooting. In essence, anyway. Here’s the supposed post:

Note that this was in response to someone else’s explanation of what happened, and that that was in response to FBI’s report that Paddock acted alone and wanted simply to die famously.

A few things to note: This is in part based on Paddock sending himself emails. Sort of. He had, it appears, put draft emails to himself under at least two different email accounts. This, by the way, was supposedly what Al Qaeda had done to communicate with itself: Not actually send the email, just have multiple groups with access to the same account and password. You could draft your message and get a reply in the same draft.

Was this potentially how he communicated with ISIS?

Also, the FBI says Paddock told his girlfriend that he had some medical issue. This could be true. Or it could be exactly what you tell your significant other when they notice some irregularities in your schedule and behavior and FBI or CIA has told you that you cannot tell them that you are working as a confidential informant for them.

Then there’s the fact that he sent her away in the first place. Unfortunately, that’s likely what you might do if you expected a big bust and a crazy terrorist organization might come looking for payback soon after and a media that would want to interview your girlfriend as well.

These points are important later. Would also mention that FBI was, compared to several other mass shootings, much more tightlipped on this one. There was, and likely still is even with some new details, something missing here.

WHAT THEY DO – IN FICTION, WHAT WE EXPECT, AND WHAT THEY REALLY DO

If you think you already have a good handle on that, you can skip this section. It’s long and basic, or should be.

Now, let us pause and discuss a few things about operations and agencies, and misconceptions. Not that I have the clearest view never having been on the inside, but I do try to understand it as best I can based on what little the public gets about how things work and how that is jarringly different from what is depicted in film and TV.

Would also note that I once read an article by a young reporter that referred to FBI and CIA collectively as “law enforcement agencies.” Completely wrong about CIA of course; it is actually a law breaking agency. That’s what it does and what it is supposed to do: Getting people in foreign governments to supply them with secrets is the classic idea. This has of course spread to people in other places in the private sector. We’re talking the intelligence gathering side of CIA. The other side deals in covert operations designed to create particular outcomes, such as overthrowing governments.

{Perhaps something notable is how we know an incredible amount more about how NSA actually operates and its tools. But this is not the point of the post.}

FBI also has two “sides.” To put it simply, it has a side that is intended to pursue federal criminal cases to court and another that is designed to find and interrupt the actions of foreign intelligence services and terrorist organizations.

What theses agencies actually do is a bit different. FBI for example, it has been widely reported and discussed, frequently uses informants posing as terrorists or malcontents to talk others into agreeing to perform terror attacks. As some judges have even noted, there likely would never have been a terror plot if it hadn’t been for the paid {in the thousands of dollars} informant’s actions in the first place. One notes however that FBI almost always supplies the targets with phony bomb parts or at least arrests them when materials are provided.

What is also notable is the CIA–noting here that it has offices in several major US cities–is not supposed to operate on US soil. When it needs something, it is supposed to go through FBI to get it. Sometimes they ask a friendly foreign intelligence service, such as MI6 to spy on Americans for them, but this is not the only workaround.

Of course the rule itself is broken time and time again. CIA employs a lot of lawyers. One gets the impression that their main job is to make Swiss cheese out of the law in order to justify anything they want to do. They also have organizations that don’t even necessarily know they are funded by CIA. They also have individuals who don’t know they actually serve it, though some clearly do.

And we occasionally see FBI operating overseas, though usually related to something domestic.

The point though is we frequently think of these agencies as stopping terrorism first because it’s what we want to think and is what we see on TV. Besides the deviation above where FBI informants have cajoled and entrapped people {probably}, people have to understand that things don’t work that way. There is rarely a ticking timebomb scenario as we think of it though that has long made for good entertainment.

Though you do occasionally see it in movies, sometimes as part of the struggle of the main character, being a field agent spy actually means that you do not simply get to decide to stop a terror attack, or any other act of violence, when it is not part of your orders, not part of whatever assignment or operation you are working on. If you see someone torturing a child or biting the head off of puppies, you are not to do anything much less call the police or step in. You are to leave your empathy at the door.

Stop and think about that mindset and ask yourself if that squares with the “superhero” Hollywood mentality we have applied to these two agencies and the spy profession as a whole. Of course, underneath this is the idea–again, this is because we have to hope what is done in secret, darkness, and compartmented is done in our best interests because of secrecy–that it’s somehow necessary to lose some battles in order to win the war.

In other words, they are going to let people die sometimes.

WHAT WAS FAST AND FURIOUS?

It was an operation in which DEA sold weapons to drug cartels in order to see what route the weapons took and where they wound up. They wound up being involved in shootings on US soil and is at least cosmetically why Congress is so down on DEA. Really it’s because some of its members profit from the illegal drug trade, but this is also not the point of the post.

BACK TO VEGAS

Right. So one problem is when the rules don’t apply anyway, is knowing who, if anyone, was attempting to sell arms to ISIS on US soil. Was it, as the anonymous poster suggests, FBI? Or is FBI covering for CIA? Practically impossible to know for certain. And as I’ve mentioned time and time again, back during the earlier portions of the Cold War, there were people like George Hunter White who bounced back and forth between CIA and FBI counterintelligence and even a DEA predecessor. It would make some sense if that this is still sometimes the case.

Regarding next portion, perhaps this is the part that really matters–not whether or not this actually is what happened, but rather that this very well could have happened and therefore almost certainly will happen. And how the public seems oblivious to that.

If the operation was to trace weapons, to better understand ISIS’ financing, and how they move money, people, and physical assets, then they almost certainly would not stop an attack. It’s very difficult to grasp this as a private citizen who thinks that their own safety should trump other concerns, but it is how it actually works.

That this would be a departure from previous ops where FBI did not provide real bomb parts, it becomes difficult to understand what changed. Why sell ISIS the real thing?

Probably first because they would know the difference. Who would they send to buy them? Someone who knows their stuff if possible. Whereas with the previously referenced alleged bombmaking plots, where FBI provides everything except responsibility, the targets are typically ignorant of anything related to actual terror and weapons, these ISIS buyers would probably know their product. They’d know if they were given fakes.

However, there are a number of other problems. Why choose the high floor during a packed concert? Certainly, the number of people would make it more difficult to notice the buyers. Maybe they would only feel comfortable in such a situation, they told Paddock. Note that he had previously been booked at another similar location in Chicago. Maybe ISIS got cold feet and changed it for some reason. Certainly one would expect a lot more federal embedding in Chicago police department than Vegas’.

See? Works either way. Said he was sick. Losing his mind or an excuse to hide his real work from his girlfriend? Father was a bank robber. Not someone FBI would work with or just got him on FBI’s RADAR as someone to watch? Emailed himself. Talking to himself or there’s a precedent for that from 9/11. High building and repetition of Chicago booking. Mad shooter plotting his event or the preference of the buyers? Certainly the latter in several of these cases seem more probable, especially the bank robber one. Remember again, we’re talking counter-terror here, not law enforcement.

Of course once you go with coverup, you face the problem of not knowing what details to believe at all. This is always the problem with lying, secrecy, coverups and too much power. But let’s assume some of this is accurate for the moment.

It would explain why FBI was so tightlipped. It would explain why there wasn’t a letter or manifesto from Paddock. It would explain how he managed to get that arsenal where he got it. And it would explain why someone would want to shoot all those people.

IN CONCLUSION

Truth is, I still don’t know. And I’d rather not be posting this because I don’t know. I’m not comfortable with this scenario on several levels. For one, even though it’s unthinkable to the average American that they wouldn’t stop such a massacre under these circumstances, it means to me that they were actually doing their job as described: You don’t defy orders. Orders were to trace the weapons. Kind of a shorter route and report than you expected. But that was the job.

I prefer noting when they aren’t doing their jobs, you see. Or when they think they’re doing their jobs but they are really doing the opposite.

I would much prefer to go where my main thrust has been: CIA, on behalf of the so-wealthy-they-don’t-need-more-money has time and again intentionally arranged terror acts in order to do everything from increasing profits for contractors to preventing a reversal of the Reagan tax cuts. This is who they have always served, and as I’ve said before it is all predicated on trickle down economics; the assurance that if they kiss the asses of billionaires and multinational corporations hard enough, they will share their money with the rest of us.

And how that meant occasionally messing with peoples’ heads and walking them into performing terror acts, similar to the FBI sting operations but where they don’t supply fakes and don’t actually stop them from pulling the trigger.

That’s where I prefer things to be because I know it’s what they have done and tried to do to me. I would prefer that.

But that is not where things are pointing in this case. It appears that either Paddock was a lone shooter or it is as this potential LVMPD person is stating. The problem there, there’s obviously some people who would love to drag FBI into its own Fast and Furious Congressional investigation, or more likely–note how screwed the public at large is given this–to trade this information for letting Russiagate eventually peter out, not be taken to its often-stated conclusion.

And then there are those who would want to exaggerate a threat from ISIS, to again focus us solely on foreign problems and to continue to ignore domestic ones, to use that to beat up on actual left politicians like AOC, to manipulate the millennials who, we really need to watch for this, scare the hell out of the 0.1%.

So this is not what I wanted to post. It just that I’ve no valid choice. You figure it out.

What’s Happening Plus What Happens In Vegas… {Updated x2}

{1 Nov 2017, newer update in bold. Something fishy about things being fishy.}

Briefly. Taking a step back and not defending anyone here, merely calmly noting events.

One will note DJT’s reputation as an assaulter of women. Then one will note the Harvey Weinstein scandal. And then Spacey’s.

One will note the Russia connection to DJT. Then one will note the Clinton campaign connection to it.

There’s clearly an attempt to make sides, in this case the two large political parties and their proponents, seem equal utilizing the news. It’s not that they’re that unequal; the difference between Nazis and warhawk mass-surveillance defenders is all too thin for my liking. The DNC’s problem is attempting to separate social justice and economic justice; it’s not possible, they are one and the same ultimately. The GOP’s problem is it is so far up the collective asses of multinational corporations that, of course, Nazism seems a good method of achieving their goals. Removes the asking of questions and places blame on the powerless instead of the powerful where it belongs.

Vegas

Know some of you were probably expecting something on Vegas. Precisely what happened eludes me at present. Alt-right has latched onto Ellen Degeneres interview with formerly AWOL security guard Jesus Campos. While it seems likely Ellen was helping friends in Vegas get back into business {note again DNC supporters}, that in itself is plenty of reason to disregard their assertions that she or her friends therefore had something to do with Paddock’s actions.

The NYT did a pretty good video meshing together several taken on phones from witnesses. There doesn’t appear to be any evidence that there were multiple shooters in there, though one can clearly hear echoes throughout the skyscraper “canyon” after one of them.

I bring this up because a young female survivor was certain that she and her friends were being chased by gunmen on the ground. Her Facebook post archived:

http://archive.li/cgRzy

I say “was” because she died in her sleep some days after. She had a pituitary tumor and her grandmother thinks it was probably that plus the stress. If so, that is really odds-defying, though I can find no motive beyond perhaps actually trying to stoke fears that there were multiple gunmen. One assumes if there had been, they would have been firing blanks.

Rene Ray De La Cruz, “After escaping Las Vegas shooting, High Desert Phoenix Foundation co-founder dies suddenly,” Valley Daily Press, 9 October 2017:

http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20171009/after-escaping-las-vegas-shooting-high-desert-phoenix-foundation-co-founder-dies-suddenly

As I’ve written before, it does make some sense that average people, especially laymen where it comes to combat, experience situations like this that the adrenaline rush may lead to confusion as to what is happening just after. On the other hand, as I’ve also written before, when you want to make certain your real target is going to be dead at the end of the event, you provide additional shooters because you cannot assume that a person with mental illness is going to be a decent assassin. But I don’t see a specific target.

Paddock doesn’t fit, so far as the information we have, any of the usual patterns.

Was it a “workplace” shooting? He did well just before, so we can probably scrap the usual Reaganomics factors, though one might argue all roads ultimately lead there. Reportedly he also booked a hotel in Chicago near Lollapalooza, so it may not have been Vegas-specific.

Was he connected to ISIS, as ISIS itself and the alt-right have been alleging? Doesn’t seem likely. All ISIS would have to do is release the chat logs or whatever contact they had with him to prove it.

And the usual goals of depicting subgroups as dangerous don’t seem to apply. While he was a year or two from retirement, I don’t think that my first instinct about painting senior citizens as violent, which will happen soon enough anyway, is the likely scenario.

What is odd is how this came on the heels of a leaked FBI report depicting Black Lives Matter members as potential terrorists.

ACLU on the report

Somehow, I think that if Paddock was not a acting solely on his own, was somehow influenced to do what he did, that it is connected to that. The fact that he did make money gambling and was so tight-lipped may have meant he thought he was on some “mission.”

Which by the way is exactly what the State’s psychiatrist said that James Eagan Holmes stated on SHOWTIME‘s new show about mass shootings. Also, “Harold,” the shooter of Ronni Chasen, had stated he expected to be paid for a hit, though there was no evidence anyone had actually told him that in person or in writing. See voice-to-skull if you find that confusing.

FBI being uncharacteristically tight-lipped about it all only makes it seem like there is something missing from the public view. I suspect they know what it is but for whatever reason aren’t saying.

Could this be it? Evidence of two aircraft using the same call letters of an airplane and one of them was likely a chopper. Don’t know how to verify this, but really strange if true. Mind the unproven but somewhat logical-to-assume headline based on alleged aircraft movement.

Anonymous/Intellihub, “Las Vegas: Flight Records Show 2nd Gunman Extracted By Helicopter After Shooting,” WorldTruth.tv, date unknown:

https://worldtruth.tv/las-vegas-flight-records-show-2nd-gunman-extracted-by-helicopter-after-shooting/

Original source:

Shepard Ambellas, “Flight records indicate a covert helicopter rooftop EXFIL may have taken place just minutes after the massacre,” Intellhub, 28 October 2017:

https://www.intellihub.com/flight-records-indicate-a-covert-helicopter-rooftop-exfil-may-have-taken-place/

Note that Ambellas is a frequent contributor to Infowars. Kinda thinking this is “reverse false-flag” somehow. That is, was a true lone wolf and Trump admin is trying to make it seem like its false-flag.

But I’m just not sure.

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